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Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:10:51 pm
by radlure,
on Ethics in our times by radlure
Just a general comment-not specific to anyone of the replies here; I'm writing and interested in exploring failure, loss and even out of control behavior because it happens. It happens more than we like to acknowledge and until it effects you personally it's just a story. Sometimes a relationship can teeter and fall based on just a few unpredictable and seemingly unavoidable events and of course the reactions to those events.
When we don't fully understand that or even pay lip service to the idea that everyone is responsible for their own problems I guess then we are a little like the biblical Cain. "Am I my brother's keeper?"
Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:19:55 pm
by radlure,
on The End Of Guardian Angels by radlure
re: comment#12
The link was very informational, but describing Byron Williams' actions as an act of terrorism is not equitable to a shrug of the shoulders and the “violent” rhetoric is, in every case except for concerns about his own well-being (no doubt due to the threats he has received) obviously either a metaphor or dark humor. They are different than a direct call to commit violence against a person or persons. The distinction is especially important in consideration of what speech is protected under the 1st amendment.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007270046
“Beck isn't the only major right-wing media figure who pushes extreme, often violent rhetoric, but he is the only one who admonishes his audience against violence.”
The article draws a big question mark about why that is necessary, but I think it is more pertinent to consider that he openly advises his listeners to not be violent.
That is not apathy.
Also, it is helpful to use the Reply link when responding to someone else's comment, because then that person will receive notification that someone has responded. It is one of the convenient features of this site. If the quoting of the comment to which you are replying annoys you, you can uncheck the box next to “automatic quote” before you submit your comment.
OK reply link noted. I think I was trying to give general replies and not "single" anyone out-at some point in this.http://mediamatters.org/blog/201007270046
“Beck isn't the only major right-wing media figure who pushes extreme, often violent rhetoric, but he is the only one who admonishes his audience against violence.”
The article draws a big question mark about why that is necessary, but I think it is more pertinent to consider that he openly advises his listeners to not be violent.
That is not apathy.
Also, it is helpful to use the Reply link when responding to someone else's comment, because then that person will receive notification that someone has responded. It is one of the convenient features of this site. If the quoting of the comment to which you are replying annoys you, you can uncheck the box next to “automatic quote” before you submit your comment.
I am glad for all the thoughtful responses here. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with them, but then I don't even always agree with myself. It is possible to state one is against violence while at the same time that it's being supported or inspired. Violence is reprehensible primarily when it's used against "your" cause; otherwise it's too bad but couldn't be helped.
History is filled with examples of that including the extralegal ouster of the original US Congress-the Continental Congress.
Sat Sep 4, 2010 6:14:48 pm
by radlure,
on The End Of Guardian Angels by radlure
Like everything this is subject to your own personal views. This mediamatters article ( http://mediamatters.org/research/201007290032 ) summarizes Beck's verbal attack on a "liberal" group in the US and the results of that.
If someone makes exaggerated and even false statements about certain groups of people and then shrugs their shoulders when people respond to that hyperbole I believe that to be a fascist tactic. I'm not saying that Beck officially supports violence but he's rather apathetic about it because I suspect that he hopes it will intimidate those he opposes.
Thu Sep 2, 2010 9:02:04 pm
by radlure,
on The End Of Guardian Angels by radlure
Don't Beck and Limbaugh divide the population up into groups and they then decide some of the groups (which are mostly labels they themselves have created) are bad for the country? That is not different from the Ku Klux Klan or other rightward-fascist groups. Indeed we all label but I don't generally hear people from the left calling for violence, oppression and other harsh measures.
Thu Sep 2, 2010 4:45:38 pm
by radlure,
on The End Of Guardian Angels by radlure
Calling the klan altruistic was a tongue in cheek device and yes if you asked them if what they were doing was for the good they would answer that it was I believe. There are very few people that go to bed believing that they are bad-everyone has justifications for what they do.
Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:34:47 am
by radlure,
on What virtual space teaches by radlure
Dispute in sl can often mean someone was defrauded or conned. Linden Labs calls that a dispute because they refuse to get involved in it.
Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:50:44 pm
by radlure,
on What virtual space teaches by radlure
Hey erdos0, I think in real world terms sl is a monarchy. There is no stated or official government and no practical way to address problems. AFAIK Linden Labs TOS says that they take no position on disputes between residents. Note, please, the wordplay there. The Labs wants to call the users of sl "residents" and other people have perhaps correctly concluded that calling their users that shifts them away from being customers.
Sorry for the longish replay but I want to underscore wordplay as a means the Labs uses as a way to get around things. They say they take no position on resident to resident disputes but then they work with and for content makers and merchants in sl to ban people who copy content there.
My point isn't about whether content coping is acceptable-it's that Linden Labs isn't consistent. You can't claim a no position stance and then take one.
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